DNA Analysis of Smeja "Steak" From Sierra Kills - So is this over with now?
Not Bigfoot
Here is a summary of the report by TCC's own Dale Drinnon
"From this it seems definite that the same sample analyzed had two sets of
mitochondrial DNA, one human of presumably European ancestry and the other
female black bear, with the bear DNA predominant and the sex of the human DNA
donor not determined, but most likely from more than one human donor because
parts of the sequences do not match up between tested samples.
I would
definitely go for contamination in this case. And as one commentator has noted,
there is no way to know for certain that this steak came from whatever it was
Justin had shot at, it was found later when Smeja and others went back to look
for remains after he had left the bodies in the first place. But one thing is
certain, the sample does NOT represent a crossbreeding of a human and a
bear!
Best Wishes, Dale D. "
So we can now assume that Smeja shot a bear and the sample was handled incorrectly. So did Smeja know he shot a bear? What about the polygraph test? Was it all a hoax or is there more to the story?
For me at this point I will assume this was all a hoax. I wonder if any of the samples were passed on to the Ketchum Study? If so what was the results? According to some people they claim Ketchum had a sample and she said the sample from Smeja was a sasquatch, which if true will bring that study under more fire.
I'm glad the results of Smeja's steak were finally presented, but I still have questions about it all? What if the Ketchum study calls it s squatch? Then we will have 2 very different DNA results for this sample.
Well here is the long and short of it...NOTHING will do beside a bigfoot dead body period. The body would have to be shown on TV everywhere. I personally would prefer some other way but it is just not going to happen. All this DNA stuff is just not cutting it right now. The more I read about these "kills" and "DNA studies" the less confidence I have in them.
It seems at this point bigfoot DNA samples are not any better than a blurry photo, except I can understand a blurry blobsquatch photo better than all the DNA jargon.
So to me the Sierra Kills story is a bust and over with, but we still have the Ketchum Study, The Tent Video and the Oxford DNA study. So we still have a little hope I guess, but I will not be holding my breath. I expect more disappointments, untruths and falsehoods....I hope I'm wrong.
TCC - Ok, so I'm beating around on the net on a Christmas day and I run across the picture above and a odd story. I had to translate the original text as it was in Chinese.
Well in any case here is the translated text, it's a bit choppy but you can get the story.
" Mountainous California, USA, in the north. On that day, in the mountains and blustery wind, the flames arose from trees rubbing together in the wind from the cage.
The flame grows quickly, fanned by the wind, spread rapidly. Spread debris following and we also spread the adjacent mountain burning a pile of one exhausted, burned.People go out, everyone in the village at the foot are anxiously staring at the fire mountain. I could only helplessly, watching.-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------And a fierce cry and you do not know the man called "Gyao~o~on!" At that time, both the animal could be heard from the direction of the mountain.Look, large animals have been rushed out of the fire. Does not seem to be a human being. The height is too high, strangely, (oh) body has been covered with brown hair crack.In the chiseled face, peeling out to the ki (free) to yellow teeth, came running towards us. The animal was stopped at the foot of the front of the villagers about 20m.From standing on two legs neatly than gorillas and monkeys, but rather human-like.-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------One of the villagers! "It Big Foot" cried."There were rumors after all!'m Was true!"Or "He's killed the horses and cattle out!"In this village incident that killed livestock from cattle and horses had earlier in succession. How they are killed bizarre Moreover, also, as in the instant death blow horses, some cattle head have been tear. I thought at first was the work of a bear, something different is how slow the bear.Somewhere down the line, "You can be like this, no doubt Bigfoot live in the mountains" Big Foot never rumors and standing, I saw nobody yet has been the culprit for killing livestock. I had now been proven that this rumor was true, however.
Most of the villagers had become stuck in fear. I think it was "...? Attacked or come", ran toward the mountain Bigfoot big whoop next moment, burning again.
The photo on the above, in which one of the villagers came out with a camera and try to shoot a wildfire when it was taken."
TCC - So the above photo is "reportedly" a real bigfoot? I have no idea when this event occurred. The picture looks like a phony to me.
Joining George Knapp, Dr. Melba S. Ketchum discussed her DNA analysis of possible Bigfoot hair samples, which was leaked to the public before the publication of her peer-reviewed paper. She reviewed her background as a veterinarian, years of research in genetics, including forensics, and her founding of the company DNA Diagnostics in 1985. She also addressed controversies that have been stirred up in the Bigfoot research community about her findings. Part of the problem, she explained, was that some non-ethical people became involved in her project, though none of their research was ever incorporated into her final paper.
This a possible bigfoot hiding in some bushes, notice the eye shine
[This is a pretty long interview and only a small sampling of the photos and video. We hope to have more from LT in the near future.]
TM: Identify yourself. LT: L. TROUTMAN
TM: Indicate that we have permission to use the story LT: You have permission to use my interview.
TM: What is the your position, credentials, background etc. LT: Amateur researcher who has lived in this area my whole life,indeed both sides of ancestors have lived hear since the turn of the 19th century(1800).
TM: When was the encounter? LT: The encounter of interaction took place on 9-6-12.
TM: Where was the encounter? LT: Anthracite Coal Region of PA.
TM: Describe the terrain there. What kind of area ? LT: It was on a large hill or small mountain heavily forested with a stream near by, probably about 200 feet from the top of the mountain. Nearest house was about 5 miles away.
TM: Tell the story of how this all started? LT: This all started after watching many videos on youtube. I saw how video were broken down and proved or disproved based on scientific facts. I learned about what signs next time we went out to forested areas. Indeed I found sturdy arches which could not be natural and saw some snapped trees. It was in these areas I took photos and was astounded later by what I caught.
Arch ways are sometimes thought to be made by Bigfoot
TM: Describe the events leading up to the encounter. LT: Drove to the area, have been there before, and came back with some amazing photos. When I zoomed in on the photos. I also did some filming and took photos while driving. I reached the area and walked about 30 yards south, I had a bag of acorn squash,cayenne peppers and tomatoes,which I got from my brothers garden. (I had given him some heirloom seeds which he used and wanted me to try some of that produce.) I turned right into bare area of the forest and threw the vegetables into the forest on my right (area where I had photographed them before.) I video taped a little,walked back out and went about 20 yards north. Then to the right towards the stream about 40 yards away. At the start was a building, which comes into play later, i walked to the stream filming, turned around and went about 20 yards, stopped and started the rock knock, which everyone can experience on the youtube video,"3 ROCK KNOCKS ANSWERED BY LAUREL MOUNTAIN SASQUATCH CLAN.
Here is the 3 Rock Knocks video
I picked up one rock and knocked against a rock already embedded on the ground three times. A couple seconds later there was a loud clank sounded as though it hit metal or hard plastic or both. I stopped the video, then started recording again and did a single rock knock. There was a couple second pause, then I heard a stone hit the gravel parking area. I walked a bit shut off camera and started walking out west towards my car.
Keep in mind there is this building on my right blocking most of my northern and NW view so I do not know what I may see. The rocks it seems to me were thrown somewhere from the blocked area. I walk out and see no one. I walk north and start video taping to my right (turns out I caught a squatch moving up to a tree and show his face between two trees and possibly more in the background).
I walk around my car looking for a dent and see nothing. I surmise he must have hit the top of the building. I decide to cross the parking area to the west where it is heavily forested and I am pretty sure they have nests up in the trees and got some great photos before. So I videotape and take photos for a few minutes. I then walk back to my car (east) and decide to try a whoop. I thought I was recording and it turns out I must have hit the record button one too many times. I whoop rather loud and about 4 or 5 seconds later about 15 yards to the SE on the other side of the building I hear something going through leaves then I hear a thump and the rock tumbles at least two times. This rock had to be bigger than my fist maybe even two fists size. It is even possible he used the rock I knocked with which was way bigger than my fist. At this point my jaw is hanging open and I realize I got some great audio. I look at my camera and realize it was off. Of course I was quite dismayed but also concerned. I start wondering if a whoop is actually a mating call and it ticked off a large male.
I was at the front of my car, looking south and east where the view is not blocked by this building, kind of wondering what to do next and if I am no longer welcome. All of a sudden from the east where my arm is facing I feel this gentle kind of wave effect which totally raises the hair on my forearm and hand. It is about 90 degrees out and this is no chill feeling if anything it is a warm sensation. I knew immediately it was the infra sound that these creatures induce that I read and heard about. Now I also heard that they use it to immobilize their prey.
So now my mind starts racing and I get that gut feeling like I am being closed in on. I decide to leave well enough alone and think about being miles from civilization and the sun is going down. I decide to get in the car and get out my wife's S&W bodyguard .38 caliber with only 5 rounds. But before that I start record and set the camera on top of the roof of the car angled kind of SE, the direction I did the first rock knocks. I get the gun out and load it and put it on the middle hump on the floor. I then start the car all the while hoping that it please turn over ( I have a old car). I let it warm up and get out and grab the camera. That was when I noticed something slightly darker than the surrounding area directly to the east next to a tree.
That tree seemed much wider than I remembered it. Because of the large amount of foliage around and above it was rather dark in there. It turns out while filming from the roof I caught a slew of them watching and more as I drove out of the area. I usually unload the gun(s) as soon as I get in my car to leave, but not on this night. It stayed next to me for about the next three miles, then I stopped and unloaded it. Along the way I did some more slowing down and filming which was kind off difficult as there was adrenaline pumping through me at this point realizing I just experienced something incredible.
Possible Bigfoot sitting against a tree.
TM: Describe the creature you saw. What color? Etc. LT: All I could really notice was what seemed to be a blob squatch that was a shade darker than the surrounding area later on, next to a tree which previously did not seem that wide.
TM: How did the creature move? What was it doing? LT: I noticed not movement. I got the feeling it and others were observing me intently. Indeed one or more did interact.
TM: Did the creature make any sounds or verbalization? LT: I heard no sounds at all from the creature which was very odd.
TM: How did you feel when you saw the creature? LT: That was the event on top of all the other which caused me to leave.
TM: What thoughts were going thru your mind? LT: The interview FB/FB did with the gentleman who felt as though he was led into an ambush by these squatch on all fours.Plus it was getting dark and no civilization around and I thought I had some compelling footage/experience documented. I thought better not to push the issue as the large rock thrown was a warning I felt.
TM: How long was the encounter? LT: From the time of the rock knocks being answered till I left was at least 10 minutes. TM: Was anyone with you? How many people saw the creature? LT: I was alone the whole time, however a car did go by once while I was near my car about the same time I filmed the squatch between the two trees.
TM: Were you able to take any pictures or video? LT: Video and photos, Yes.
TM: Did you look or see any tracks? LT: I noticed no tracks but was not very concerned about tracks.
TM: Did you notice anything else? LT: I Noticed no animals in the whole large area.
TM: Describe the events when you left the area. LT: I left the area with the gun still loaded and laying by my legs on the middle hump and continued filming as i could sense them all around me.
TM: What did you do in the days and weeks after the encounter? Did you tell anyone/alert authorities? LT: For day afterward I poured over my video and photos numerous times. I told my wife and son but no one else. I wanted to make sure I had some footage good enough to back up my encounter. Finally I decided this should be on public record and that it could be useful to others.
TM: Since the encounter, have you had any additional thoughts, developed any philosophies? LT: Yes, I have been trying to figure out whether these creatures are physical or supernatural. Or are they some physical creatures and some paranormal spirits hang around them. i have footage which makes a argument for both theories. Indeed I continued researching to try and get evidence to prove either theory.I wanted to believe in the worst way that these were made by our creator God,and sought out evidence for that. however, what I obtained told me otherwise for the most part. When my footage is enhanced such things as shapshifting,strange colors and lights, disappearing,appearing in a split second,ect. and i see nothing until I go over the footage later. My latest video I put on youtube 12/2/12 has an EVP at :02, which I cannot make out but sounds female. Then a squatch figure comes into frame at superhuman speed.I equate the EVPs with supernatural. I want to point out I have nothing to do with Occult Practices. i never used Ouija, Tarot cards, Palm readers, No ghost hunting,seances,ect. I do like watching ghost hunting shows basically to learn about demons tactics and tricks, ect. I am a God fearing man and may have to stop this research based upon the results I have gotten. i have also wondered about any possible connection to the giant cone head skulls found in Chile,Russia and some whole skeletons all over earth, would the DNA match?
It is reported that a giant skeleton was found in the 20'f or 30's by coal miners in Shenandoah,Pa. With all the activity that tool place on this mountain I have to wonder if it is some type of portal. Supposedly there are burial mounds in the Ohio Vally, where giants skeleton were found and of course the museums swoop in and take these so as not to disprove their evolution theory. anyhow, I could go on and on about theories.
TM: What do you call them? LT: I call them sasquatch but maybe forest people would be more appropriate.
TM: Were you a believer before all this happened? LT: yes.
TM: Do you think “habituator” is an accurate description of your brand of researching? LT: Spontaneous Researcher Applies.
TM: Describe a typical research day. How do you interact with them? LT: I just grab a camera and go out to uncivilized areas, usually taking a combination of photos and video. I use to whistle to draw them in, Indeed that is what I did on the day of interaction. But no longer do that, I have found they will find us. whatever they are they are extremely curious and want to observe us. at least that seems to be the case with the clans I dealt with. I try to be quiet as not to contaminate my videos. Most of the time my family is with me.when I am alone is when they seem to make themselves known more.
TM: Are you ever afraid of them? LT: I was not really too afraid when I thought they were physical, now that at least some of them seem to be supernatural ,that frightens me.
TM: How many have you seen at one time? LT: As far as I could tell one but there may have been more than one huddled together but i could not differentiate. When going over the footage I usually notice many of them.
TM: Are they different colors? LT: On my footage I have seen probably all the colors ever mentioned by witnesses of them.
TM: Have you ever seen them climb trees? LT: Not with my naked eye,however on my footage Yes indeed they are moving through trees,moving up and down.Strangely enough I have footage of these being near very tops of trees on limbs that could not possibly hold their weight.
This is a possible Bigfoot in a tree
TM: How close a relationship do you think you have with them? LT: When I first started I liked to think we had one, but now I feel quite the opposite.
TM: Why do you suppose they allow you to get so close? LT: Whatever they are they want to observe and learn things about us. They know I am not dangerous to them. at times I carry a handgun (have concealed carry permit) but I would never shoot one unless I was charged.
TM: Do they talk or demonstrate a kind of language? LT: The only language I heard was the EVP on 12/2/12. At another location I suspected they were whistling back and forth between two embankments which were heavily forested.
TM: Have you witnessed them mating? LT: On footage, I cannot say they are mating however they are in very strange positions. Most astounding is how they are atop one another posing as trees. I have a theory that native Americans somehow noticed this and the results of that was their making of totem poles. I know much of this sound very far out,but when my footage gets enhanced many people will see what I am talking about.
TM: Is there anything you’d like to add? LT: I do believe some people have footage and experiences with real physical Sasquatch. As to what I have been seeing/interacting with I'm sill not totally sure. Perhaps some are physical and some are paranormal.
Thanks to LT for the videos,pictures and Interview!
Saucer-Shaped Craft
Photographed From Airplane Window
By TCC Team member
Dorraine Fisher
Analysis by Thomas Marcum
Is this a real UFO?
A
friend of a man named Larry Siu, a passenger on a plane headed from Hong Kong
to Kunming City in southwest China apparently snapped this picture from the
airplane window of what appears to be a saucer-shaped UFO.
Siu
said, “Many passengers saw it and took pictures.”
The
picture was said to have been taken last week, and was subsequently passed on
to Rex Pictures.
Analysis:
Upon first looking at the photo, it look pretty good. The background story seem feasible as well but lets look at the photo itself.
Here is a zoom of the object
UFO?
After running the photo on some software I have, it seems this is a HOAX.
The software came back with this determination.
"NOTE: Photoshop IRB detected
Based on the analysis of compression characteristics and EXIF metadata: ASSESSMENT: Class 1 - Image is processed/edited"
This is only part of the analysis of the photo data. This could very well be one of the cell phone apps where you can place an "ufo" in any photo. There is also a bigfoot app that does the same thing.
Dyer confirms several of the details told to us by an insider and calls for protection laws to protect bigfoot. He also talks about Minnow Films and the upcoming video and more.
Here is the almost 2-hour show done on blog talk radio
Well,
I may have to eat my words, but if I do, everyone will be too busy to see it.
According to Mayan prophecy, the world ends tomorrow, December 21, 2012.If you’re a believer in this prediction, and
as the time is drawing nearer, are you more fearful, or less?I’m still not worried, and I’ll gladly tell
you why.
At
the beginning of this year, scientists said there would be more solar flare
activity all this year which could cause all kinds of technical problems. And
it has, but nothing of an apocalyptic magnitude. As you can see, it’s December,
and no universal disasters have shown signs of beginning. It’s Thursday, the
20th and the earth’s platelets are shifting at about their normal rate. There
are no signs of anything changing so dramatically as to bring on the end of the
world. But you might tell me it won’t start until December 21, and you may be
right. Maybe on Friday at precisely 12 AM the sky will become very dark, and the
earth will open up and swallow us all whole. If it does, I’ll admit I’m
wrong...if I’m still here, that is.
But
enough with the scientific arguments. If you believe the world’s going to end,
there’s nothing I can say that will persuade you otherwise. Not even common
sense.
The
Mayan calendar was designed in increments of 400 years each. The last increment
which just so happens to end in 2012. How far do you suppose they could they
have kept going with the calendar when they created it? Going on forever would
mean the creator of the calendar could never be allowed to die. Or someone else
would have to take over writing it, and another, and another, forever.But Mayan civilization fell, and all their
activities ceased. Including the design of their calendar. The calendar simply
had to end somewhere.It’s actually
amazing in itself that they managed to keep it going all the way up to 2012 at
all.
And
what time will this start exactly? While at 12 AM in my time zone, to the west
of me and across the ocean, it will be 12 PM... on the night before...still the
20th of December.So if this
prophecy date is literally set in stone, then how does that work? Is it going
to just explode all at once like that date was a lie, or is it going to
progress by time zone methodically around the entire planet?
Does
this seem even a little ridiculous yet? I hope so.
But
I’m sad to say that suicide rates are up around the world and anxiety levels
are high in young people who have not lived long enough to know how this goes.
They’re just getting started with their lives. And it’s easy for them to think
that it could all come crashing down any day. And their impressionable minds
are wide open to all kinds of ideas, bad and good.
But
those of us who are older and have seen countless end-of-the-world predictions
over the years, either yawn at the mention of it, or take it somewhat
seriously, and then think “Oh well! If it does happen, there’s nothing I can do
about it.”We might stockpile a little
extra food and water, as anyone should for emergencies, but we go on living our
lives.
Because
we’ve watched it happen over and over again, year after year. One prediction
after another that never came true. And there are plenty of things to worry
about in our busy lives without worrying about the earth giving way under our
feet.
If
it does happen, we’ll all be in the same boat. And the only thing we can really
hope for is that it happens quickly and painlessly. But I’m still betting that
the only thing that will be shaking much on earth on Friday are the hundreds of
thousands of believers that truly think that is our last day on the planet.
Me,
I’m taking it one day at a time, fully expecting to get up Saturday morning and
cook breakfast as usual. I’ve already bought my groceries and made weekend
plans.Maybe, just maybe that morning
I’ll wipe a tiny bead of sweat off my brow and sigh with relief that I made it
through yet another one. But I’ll be be doing that while I’m eating and staring
out the window at yet another sunrise. *******DF
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Shane
Shamblin Talks About His Harrowing Encounter
By TCC Team Member
Dorraine Fisher
In
the search for Bigfoot, we’re all obsessed with the physical evidence; the
blood, hair, footprints, and getting the perfect picture. But does that all
erase the significance of what could be called the “non-sighting?” The incident
where we know we’ve come across something very real, but didn’t actually see
it? It depends on what kind of “non-sighting” you have. When you have an
encounter like the one Shane Shamblin experienced in Indiana, even without
actually seeing much, he knew this was not a normal day.
It
happened one foggy night when Shane and his brother and a friend were fishing
in an abandoned strip mine pit near Linton, Indiana known as Gamble Lake. They
had floated out onto the lake not far from their original access point when
they began to hear splashing sounds in the water.
“We
first thought a territorial beaver was a little upset with us,” Shane
explained.“There were very large
splashes near the boat. Mind you, we are in the dark, and it's about 1 AM in
the morning. The water is very deep there, so the splashes had a huge
"ka-thunk" sound when they would happen.”
Fearing
the “beaver’s” activity might puncture the raft, the three men decided to float
toward the bank and fish from their instead. But they soon came to discover
that the huge splashes were now coming toward the same spot.
“We
were laughing and joking about how this beaver wanted to "eat" us,”
Shane said. “Anyhow, I decided to turn
on a light. I had a rechargeable 1,000,000 candlepower spotlight, so I turned it
on and set it on it's stand. I have to admit now, it was easier to see without
the light. Anyhow, there were a couple of more big splashes, and then one
caught my eye. Out of my peripheral vision, I seen a white flash falling from
the sky and into the water just about 10 feet out from us. I didn't say
anything at first, because I thought it may be my eyes playing tricks on me.
Then it happened again, and this time I told my Brother and Mike to watch for
it too. That's when we realized, after all three of us seeing it at the same
time, they were basketball-sized limestone rocks falling into the water, from
the sky. At this point, we are all baffled and confused.”
That’s
when Shane’s friend Mike yelled either jokingly or nervously, “We’re being
attacked!” Shane picked up the spotlight and shined it over on the other bank
only to see an enormous shadow.
“I shined the
light over there against the cliff wall on the other side. Whatever we hit with
the light casts a shadow on the cliff face (mostly rocky and small trees on
it). The shadow (only the shadow) was huge, about 20 feet tall, and it was
swaying back and forth, like a bear does when it's confused. Because of the
bright light and the fog clashing together....we did not see what was actually
casting the shadow. All three of us were still trying to figure out what the
hell it could be, and then we heard trees snapping and popping as the shadow
moved away from the light and moved up a very, very steep incline.”
In
Indiana, there aren’t many animals large and strong enough to break trees. So
the men soon left the area and planned to return the next day. And Shane
explained what they were thinking.
“We
were pretty shaken up,” he said. “So we left until daylight. We went fishing on
Airline lake, and returned in the daytime to see if we could see rocks in the
water for proof that we hadn't gone mad. The banks of the strip pits are very
cliff-faced. In other words, there is only a drop-off. No incline, and it was
covered with moss.”
Looking
back on the experience, Shane thinks he knows what it was that was throwing
rocks at them that day.
“Cows
don't launch rocks. And a man can't throw a rock that size 50 yards either. All
of us have grown up in the woods. I hear flack about it all the time when I
talk about it.But I never believed (but
always wanted to) until that night.It still
freaks me out.”
Sometimes
a bigfoot encounter doesn’t involve an actual sighting, but you can’t explain
what happened by any other means other than to decide to believe.
“I
try to discount bigfoot all that I can,“ Shane laughed. “For sanity's sake. But the one thing that draws me
back every time are the stories told by the Native Americans years and years
ago.”
Yes,
something casts a twenty-foot high shadow and throws boulders from a cliff
face? Hmmm! What could it be? *******DF
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This is a post by TCC Team Member Dale Drinnon. Dale has a degree in Anthropology with a
background in Zoology and Paleontology. Visit his Blog - Frontiers of Zoology
I had seen the photo of the very apelike creature photographed at Temagami, Ontario on the Bigfoot Evidence page several times, I had a growing certainty that it did not represent the same sort of creature seen in the Patterson film but was instead something more apelike.
I decided to do a paste-up comparison. The Patterson female picture I used had been overly enhanced (Typical of these reproductions) and so I retouched the head and face to be more like the head and face I could actually make out in the original. And then I pasted the Temagami photo alongside of it.
I suspect the Temagami Wood Ape (or Argopelter) was actually something much smaller than the Sasquatch, but if you had a small Sasquatch female at about six feet tall and a large male Wood Ape (Swamp Ape) also about six feet tall, the comparison might come out like this.
Comparison of the two
The most obvious thing is that the Wood ape is indeed substantially more apelike with longer arms and shorter legs, and long stringy-looking hair. They are often compared to a gorilla or a chimp, but more often to an orangutan, and in this case the creature reminds me of an orangutan, particularly in the shape of the head.
There is possibility also less hair on its butt, and if the Y shape in back has anything to do with the skeleton underneath, it would seem the pelvis is decidedly more apelike in the type.This would be Gordon's "Eastern Bigfoot" that has feet with an Opposable toe and leaves a track similar to that of the Orang Pendek.
There is also a more "Caveman" sort of Bigfoot that lives in the Eastern US and I done another comparison of the Sasquatch with it. (Dale's post about Gordon's Eastern Bigfoot can be found HERE)
This comparison makes the geographical types look pretty plainly different. The "Iceman" was clearly of the same "Eastern" type.
Eastern & Western
Gordon Mullet and I got into this at first because each one of us was
using the term "Eastern Bigfoot" to mean something different. I was
using the term to mean something more human like and Gordon meant something more apelike.
If we are going to look objectively at the
photos, tracks and reports, it would seem that in the Eastern USA there
is indeed a more manlike and a more apelike hairy creature represented.
The problem is that there is NO common point of reference which makes
the distinction. Both the more manlike and the more apelike creature are
called "Bigfoot" and "Skunk Ape" or "Skunk Ape" with no real
distinctions being made. It is only when you go through many reports
that the distinction becomes pretty obvious.
Sasquatch is something
else again, and it is different from the more manlike Eastern type,
which was my point with the second comparison ,On comparing Patty to the first
photo, the Ontario creature does look very much like an ape, which was
Gordon's Eastern Bigfoot (Not Mine) but on comparing Patty to the Fouke
Monster and others of the "Caveman" type, the latter are basically just
hairy humans. The Iceman seen by Sanderson and Heuvelmans is very like
that type, the more human one.
Thanks
Dale
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There
have been many rumors swirling around about Sally Ramey, Dr. Melba Ketchum’s
former publicist, and her association with Janice Carter of the controversial
Carter Farm bigfoot stories. Janice Carter Coy, as she was known then, became a
prominent figure in the case for bigfoot when she shared some striking details
about the creatures for a National Geographic special from having spent years
with them living near her farm in Tennessee. Some of those details have been
found to be valid by other researchers, and she was known to have had
associations with Russian hominologist, Dr. Igor Burtsev, and Will Duncan. But
when she proclaimed the creatures spoke a language, albeit English, it sent
many in the bigfoot world to question her validity. And it’s left anyone who
has associated with her, like Sally Ramey, to also come under scrutiny.So with so many untruths circulating about her,
Sally felt it necessary to set the record straight about her relationship to
the Carter case. This is her statement to The Crypto Crew:
“In
2008, I met Janice Carter at Don Keating’s Bigfoot Conference at Salt Fork
State Park in Ohio. I subsequently visited her in Tennessee a few times and
went into the field with her. During these visits I heard many vocalizations,
but never saw a Bigfoot.
During
one of these visits, I learned that Jan and her little girl had fallen on hard
times and were about to become homeless. She had no family support, no means of
supporting herself, and after contacting all local public services, nowhere to
go. She had always claimed to have multiple health issues, and I can confirm
that this was true. I also witnessed unusual symptoms that concerned me.
I
provided Jan and her daughter with a home for more than two years. I helped Jan
get medical attention that confirmed an undiagnosed brain injury from a brutal
beating she had received several years before. This is referenced on her
Facebook page in one of her notes. I supported Jan and her child while she
received proper medical care and pursued therapy as well as disability
benefits. They now live with Jan’s fiance in Tennessee.
During
my association with Jan, we did field research with a number of individuals in
four states. We also made several attempts to visit Fox (the bigfoot Janice
claimed to have spoken to before) – all failures.
The last attempted visit was in
the summer of 2010, when Jan believed Fox to be ill. No one else was there –
just me, Jan and her daughter. We heard one distant whoop. Nothing else
happened and we left to visit with her fiance.
It has been a long time since I
have heard from Jan and she is rarely active on FB.
While I stand by my own
experiences, I make no claims re:[regarding] Jan's experiences and can only report what
she told me about her family's habituation history.”
[Special Thanks to Sally Ramey for giving TCC the Exclusive.] [TCC Did a small interview with Janice Carter a few months back. You can read it HERE]
Thanks to a super inside source we now have amazing details of what really happened during the filming and the shooting of the bigfoot in the tent video. Height and weight of the creature and much more!
As you know this video was filmed in San Antonio and the film crew from Minnow films was there along with other people on the expedition.
Some ribs were nailed to a tree in an attempt to lure in a bigfoot, well it worked. Rick Dyer was using a cell phone to film the bigfoot and then Dyer stepped out of the tent and our insider tells us that Rick Dyer "froze up" once he was outside the tent and saw the bigfoot. The bigfoot was walking away with the ribs in his hands according to our insider.
So what they decided to do next,according to our insider, is to go down to wal-mart and buy more ribs and they did just that and nailed them to the trees again. Well later that night the bigfoot shows back up and this is when Dyer steps out of the tent in his underwear and fires at the bigfoot. Our insider said more than one shot was fired. The bullet that brought down the bigfoot entered in the neck of the creature and exited out it's mouth, knocking out 2 teeth.
Well this upset the producers from Minnow films, they were under the impression that the rifle was just for protection against known animals. What happened next according to our insider is that Dyer and the Producers got into a fist fight and it was a good one. They all kind of settled down after a little fighting.
The Producers got a little scared and called in some government officials. The government people showed up and took some samples and pictures,it also appeared that the officials were kind of shocked about the dead bigfoot. Our insider did not say what branch of the government it was that was called. After talking to these officials the producers settled down a bit and realized they would not be going to jail or getting into any trouble.
2 days after the video was filmed Dyer went to London and had a meeting with the Minnow Film people.
Our insider said that Minnow Films later purchased Dyer a New 2012 Lincoln Navigator for $70,000.
We can confirm that dyer did in fact get a new Navigator.
Here is a picture of it
$70,000 Navigator purchased by Minnow Films
Here is the video the picture is from
So it seems Dyer got a pretty good payment for his part in the filming and killing of the bigfoot, but I would assume more money will be coming his way soon.
It's not like Dyer needs it , he has some good backers according to our insider. Dyers main backer is a Male country music singer and the insider told us that the singer has already seen the dead bigfoot.
So where is the body now? well some have reported that the bigfoot body is in London but our insider said that was not true and the body was here in the USA. It will continued to be looked at by a unnamed university.
How or what made the bigfoot come around a second time in the Dyer camp? Well according to our insider the bigfoot was kind of use to people being around and was not really very scared of people and it didn't seem to mind people seeing it. According to our source there is a number of homeless people living in this area and the bigfoot is used to seeing people. Our source also told us that this is around the same area where 2 homeless people reported seeing a bigfoot dragging a deer, In fact Dyer and the Minnow Crew was able to track down the 2 homeless people from the 911 call and interview them for the upcoming film according to our source.
Here is the youtube video of the homeless 911 call
How Big was the Bigfoot? Our insider told us that the bigfoot was a Male, standing 8 foot and 9 inches tall and weight 632 pounds.It should also be noted that according to our source Minnow films and its crew did not know Dyer had filmed the bigfoot with his cell phone until the tent video was posted on youtube. Our insider also told us that the film from Minnow Films will be coming out in 2013 and will be going to the Tribeca film festival.
Here is a little recap:
*Male bigfoot
*8ft. 9 in. tall
*Weight 632 pounds
*Body still in the USA
*Shot threw the neck and out the mouth,knocking out 2 teeth
*Dyer and producers got in a fight
*Dyer got a $70,000 Navigator
*Film will come out in 2013
Here is the Tent Video
So I hope you enjoyed this World Exclusive, I hope to get more info from our inside source soon. It was also confirmed by our source that Rick Dyer is under a NDA agreement but they did not give us any details about it.
I Uploaded this in 720p HD ...so please adjust the settings.
Okay,I know a lot of experts have looked at this video and many are saying or hoping it is a real bigfoot, but after looking at it more it appears to just be a person. I'm not an expert and I know the video is never as clear on youtube as it is while I'm watching it on my computer but all I can see is a person jumping around. I think most are calling this the "Russian Jumping Bigfoot" or something to that effect.If you watch the part over a few times of when the "bigfoot" first jumps out you can see the white shirt, belt, and different color pants.
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