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Wednesday, December 19, 2012

Patty's face

This is a post by TCC Team Member Dale Drinnon.
Dale has a degree in Anthropology with a background in Zoology and Paleontology.
Visit his Blog - Frontiers of Zoology

I had seen the photo of the very apelike creature photographed at Temagami, Ontario on the Bigfoot Evidence page several times, I had a growing certainty that it did not represent the same sort of creature seen in the Patterson film but was instead something more apelike.
I decided to do a paste-up comparison. The Patterson female picture I used had been overly enhanced (Typical of these reproductions) and so I retouched the head and face to be more like the head and face I could actually make out in the original. And then I pasted the Temagami photo alongside of it.
I suspect the Temagami Wood Ape (or Argopelter) was actually something much smaller than the Sasquatch, but if you had a small Sasquatch female at about six feet tall and a large male Wood Ape (Swamp Ape) also about six feet tall, the comparison might come out like this.
Comparison of the two
The most obvious thing is that the Wood ape is indeed substantially more apelike with longer arms and shorter legs, and long stringy-looking hair. They are often compared to a gorilla or a chimp, but more often to an orangutan, and in this case the creature reminds me of an orangutan, particularly in the shape of the head. 
There is possibility also less hair on its butt, and if the Y shape in back has anything to do with the skeleton underneath, it would seem the pelvis is decidedly more apelike in the type.This would be Gordon's "Eastern Bigfoot" that has feet with an Opposable toe and leaves a track similar to that of the Orang Pendek.
There is also a more "Caveman" sort of Bigfoot that lives in the Eastern US and I done another comparison of the Sasquatch with it. (Dale's post about Gordon's Eastern Bigfoot can be found HERE)
This comparison makes the geographical types look pretty plainly different. The "Iceman" was clearly of the same "Eastern" type.
Eastern & Western

Gordon Mullet and I got into this at first because each one of us was using the term "Eastern Bigfoot" to mean something different. I was using the term to mean something more human like and Gordon meant something more apelike.
If we are going to look objectively at the photos, tracks and reports, it would seem that in the Eastern USA there is indeed a more manlike and a more apelike hairy creature represented. The problem is that there is NO common point of reference which makes the distinction. Both the more manlike and the more apelike creature are called "Bigfoot" and "Skunk Ape" or "Skunk Ape" with no real distinctions being made. It is only when you go through many reports that the distinction becomes pretty obvious.
Sasquatch is something else again, and it is different from the more manlike Eastern type, which was my point with the second comparison ,On comparing Patty to the first photo, the Ontario creature does look very much like an ape, which was Gordon's Eastern Bigfoot (Not Mine) but on comparing Patty to the Fouke Monster and others of the "Caveman" type, the latter are basically just hairy humans. The Iceman seen by Sanderson and Heuvelmans is very like that type, the more human one.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2 comments » by Thomas Marcum
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  1. Not that i don't believe in BF,but that Ontario photo has been debunked as being the same suit that was used in another hoax in the same area.
    The people that supposedly took the picture, do not exist. The research team that did
    break the story, will not respond to any of it.

    1. Yeah, a lot of the Bigfoot sightings were hoaxes, but every one of the thousands of sightings reported can't be fakes


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