Here is their time table of events

 

TimetableThe project is divided into three phases.

• SAMPLE SUBMISSION PHASE May – September 2012
• DNA ANALYSIS PHASE September – November 2012
• PUBLICATION PHASE November – December 2012

 

 

 

DNA ANALYSIS At the end of the submission phase, the most promising samples will be selected for DNA analysis. You will not be charged for the analysis. Unselected samples will be returned.

The process of DNA analysis is destructive. Any unused material from selected samples will be returned or, if you prefer, will be submitted for curation as part of the Bernard Heuvelmans Cryptozoology archive in Lausanne.

PUBLICATION PHASE
Results from DNA analysis will be prepared for publication in a peer-reviewed science journal. No results will be released until any embargoes on publication have passed.

PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATORS

Prof. Bryan Sykes
Professor of Human Genetics
Wolfson College
University of Oxford
Oxford OX2 6UD
United Kingdom
bryan.sykes@wolfson.ox.ac.uk

Dr. Michel Sartori
Directeur
Musee de Zoologie
Palais de Rumine
Place de Riponne 6
CH-1014 Lausanne
Switzerland
michel.sartori@vd.ch

When emailing please use OLCHP as the subject of your message

 

TCC - It seems they at least have plan and a time frame in which the project will be completed. This could be a saving grace type of thing for hope of a bigfoot DNA paper in the year 2012.

So with any luck either this or the Ketchum paper will come out before the years end.Then who knows maybe we get lucky and they both will come out.

 

Thanks

New Hair Sample

 

Recently Randy Brisson,who is one of my favorite researchers, posted a new hair sample photo he collected.

Randy also has some hair samples that is said to be included in the Ketchum DNA paper and he is listed on the team page of The Erickson Project web site.

This recent sample is a new hair sample and is not one of the samples that has already been submitted to the DNA study.

Randy also stated that he was recently yelled at by a sasquatch while out in the woods and that some rogue researchers have been in there at night and it has irritated the sasquatch.

 

 

 

 

Dr. Melba Ketchum

 

Dr. Ketchum who was to be Presenting at the WA conference did not make the event.

She still did a presentation via Skype  that covered some methods and DNA info. Her not showing to the conference has raised a lot of questions in the bigfoot community. She made a few statements concerning her presentation. Her first statement was before the conference and here it is:

 

"Presenting at the WA conference at 2 PDT today. Since the paper isn't quite out, won't be able to give data, but I do hope that everyone will learn some things." - Dr. Ketchum.

 

So she knew that she would not be talking about the DNA paper.

 

After her not showing up in person and questions flying everywhere about all of it, she made the following statements:

 

"I need to set the record straight on mis-reporting concerning my presentation at the WA conference:

1. My presentation was not 8 years old. I used some powerpoint slides from a complicated human/animal forensic case from 8 years ago to demonstrate our forensic capabilities as well as some of the techniques used in our study including control of contamination.
2. We did not sequence the WTC s...amples, Celera did that, but I was involved with the analysis of the sequences generated by Celera.
3. The PowerPoint Presentation did include results of the first alleged BF samples tested in our lab. This was followed by me discussing the results of the first BF samples that actually triggered the beginning of this project.
I have to remind everyone, that until it is published, I cannot discuss our data at all. That is why this presentation was given in this context." - Dr. Ketchum

 

So if things are as she is saying, then the DNA paper is still under review and will be published at some point.

 

 

Sierra Kills Drawing

 

Robert Lindsay recently posted the above photo. Love him or hate him he does obtain some inside info when it comes to all the bigfoot stuff.

This is a  professional artist’s rendering of a Bigfoot .This is a rendering of the bigfoot Justin Semja  killed and reportedly submitted the DNA sample from. This sample is reported to be included in the Dr. Ketchum DNA paper.

Robert Lindsay also reported that Justin Semja  has submit a bigfoot steak sample to an independent lab for testing of DNA.

 

 

TCC

 

This was just a quick review of some of the more important events in the bigfoot community. I think we are the only ones that covered the Randy Brisson hair sample...but I think it was important.

 

Thanks

Tom

[TCC - This is a article written by TCC Team Member Dorraine Fisher. Enjoy!]

 

 

 

TCC -  I just wanted to share this because of the DNA talk and it being from Nature Magazine. Nature Magazine has been rumored to be the mag that will publish the DNA findings on the Bigfoot samples. Dr. Ketchum has stated it will not be in Nature Magazine, just for the record.

It's Amazing what details have been found out about the "iceman" and it makes me hopefully about the Bigfoot DNA.

TCC -  As most of you know there has been more rumors surrounding the bigfoot DNA paper than there are words in the dictionary. Well one of the latest was that the paper was going to be published in a cryptozoology journal/magazine ...so this got Dr Melba Ketchum to release the following statement:

 

 

   

Here is what the statement says :

"Fact: This paper has not and will not go to a cryptozoology "journal" of any type. Stringent, skeptical review is necessary for the success of this paper, thus the length of time it is taking to get this out. It would have been out a long time ago if we would have chosen to send it to some obscure journal or some type of crypto journal but I prefer the more difficult path because it makes the paper credible to the scientific community."

 

TCC - So in other words this is not going to be published in anything but some type of scientific journal or magazine...which is a good thing as it will make the efforts much more creditable.

On that note I do want to thank all those who work at any Crypto journal or  magazine or online crypto sites, while your efforts might not be considered "scientific" or you may feel like you get zero credit, I think it has much merit and value to not only me but other people who are interested in the subject. I would think it servers a good purpose to introduce new people into the wonderful world of Cryptozoology.  

 

Thanks

Tom

By TCC Team Member Dorraine Fisher
Professional Writer, a nature and wildlife enthusiast who has written for many magazines.

 

TCC - Tonight on the Dr. Melba Ketchum Public Info facebook page the following was posted -

 

"Hi all, I will repeat what I said. Much to everyone's chagrin, including mine, I cannot discuss the project per se. I can kill off some rumors here and there and answer some general questions which is why I made this site. I hope this will help everyone to come together. We will have websites that will be launching at the time that the paper comes out with a lot of information. We also will have a website and an associated non-profit protection website. We are very excited about this non-profit that is being formed. Interested parties should contact Sally Ramey for more information."

 

 

TCC -  [Rant] To me this is very disappointing news and I really feel like we are being given the round around. It makes me question the whole project....is Fasano right? well with put offs and run arounds it does make one wonder. Let me put out this statement - If this has all been a Hoax then I think everyone involved should first have any professional licenses revoked and second have to serve at least 10 years in Jail with out any chance of parole.  NDAs and secrets are are killing all this...makes it look more and more like a big fat lie, they seem to be hiding and dodging any real info and are using NDAs to hide behind. 

I personally do not need a DNA Paper to prove sasquatch are real, I think there is enough evidence of that already, but to keep stringing people along and to keep any good info suppressed is just wrong.

Many people have been made fun of and ridiculed over their belief and encounters with Sasquatch and now people who can validate all the reports are just not coming forward to do so...and always come up with a reason why they can't say anything... I sure hope this is not a Hoax. I have been a supporter of this project and had high hopes for it but it seems to be taking too long for there to be very much substance to it.  Would it  kill any thing to release a couple of really good photos? or give a publishing date?

I sure hope this is a real DNA paper but I for one am really tried of waiting and tried of all the put offs and the"soon" and be "Patience" remarks.

[/Rant OFF] 

I'm normally not one to rant much...but this is really getting kind of  ridiculous...it's not like we are giving away the code to get into Fort Knox.

Thanks

It’s a shocking question, and one that must be seriously considered. The footage in question was shot by the wife of “Bob,” the owner of the property, as she was wearing a ghillie suit. She snuck up on Matilda, an adolescent female Bigfoot, and shot a short HD videotape of her walking towards the camera.The sexy teen Bigfoot approaches the camera, and you can see a closeup of her face, which is said to look like a Chewbacca. Soon the Bigfoot recognizes she is being photographed and growls at the photographer. When she does, you can see fanged incisors. Many observers think these fangs are strange, but many reports say that Bigfoots have long incisor teeth or fangs.
However, on Bigfoot Forums, Bill Munns said he was asked to review a videotape from the Erickson Project, presumably from Kentucky, that may have been thought by the EP to have been faked. Munns reviewed it carefully and said it was a modified Chewbacca mask, but it was very well done. So the rumors are flying that the Matilda footage is Chewie mask and therefore the best EP footage in the video is a hoax.
We can breathe a sigh of relief.

This is what happened:
When Erickson bought the property, about 5 videotapes came with the deal, all shot by the owners. Erickson also purchased these videos for a pretty sum, but he did so with the proviso that if any were proven fakes, there would be no money paid for those fakes.
Of the 5 videos, 4 were thought to be genuine. These included the footage of Matilda sleeping in the woods and the famous footage of Matilda walking towards the camera described above. However, the first video, an early video, was revealed to be a fake, possibly with the help of Munns. No money was paid for that video. The other four videos were shot later.

 

A source told Robert Lindsay the following:

"Here is the big news Robert, but unfortunately I can’t tell you anything more about it or expand on it. But by the end of this month, a shockwave is going to be sent through the Bigfoot community. That’s all I can say at the moment. But things are happening now that are gonna change everything."

 

Hmmm...Does this mean that the DNA paper will publish soon? Will it publish at the end of this month like many have stated? This could be what is going to happen,time will tell.

 

Robert Lindsay's latest post about bigfoot and the DNA paper gave us more to think about as well.

 

We can now assume the Following:

 

*  Josh Gates Yeti hair sample taken in Bhutan is now part of the final report and is a sample being used.

* Sierra Kills steak hair is 5-6 inches long,kinky like pubic hair.

* Sierra Kills steak, according to Dr. John Mionczynski,  smells like “burnt honey”.

* Sierra Baby Kill is said to look like a cross between a chimpanzee and a black Kid, the eyes are closer together than humans.

* Sierra Kills sample was included in Ketchum’s study.

* Some DNA samples were tested blind at eight different labs across the U.S.

* Alaska professor Rob Alley possible co-author of the Ketchum study.

* A rib bone with some flesh and hair stuck to it was found during the search of the Sierra Kills site in July,bone has not yet been tested.

* Derek Randles  revealed on MBRT Radio that Justin Smeja has boots with the blood of the young Bigfoot on them.

 

Lindsay also posted some info about Matt Moneymaker and the Finding Bigfoot show but I didn't pass it along here....so if you want to read it please go on his blog via the link below.

[Source Robert Lindsay Blog ]

 

Thanks and I just can't wait until all the info and videos are finally released.

 

Dr. Melba Ketchum DNA study may prove the existence of the Yeti in addition to Bigfoot!

We have not been able to verify this rumor, but we have heard from several people that the Ketchum study also includes purported Yeti hair gathered by Josh Gates, apparently in Bhutan. We just heard it from someone very close to the study, so we think it is good.

The Yeti hair tested as no known animal, not human, unknown primate.

Not only that, but the Yeti sample was actually close to the nearly 100 Bigfoot samples. So not only do Yetis exist, but they are closely related to Bigfoots. Some of us have always thought that Yetis were real, but lately, there has been a lot of skeptical research pouring cold water on the theory. The Wikipedia article on the subject says Yetis do not exist, and they are mythical.
I think the Yeti is a bit of a different hominid from a Bigfoot in quite a few ways, but it appears to be a closely related species.
[ Via Robert Lindsay Blog ]

TCC - This is fairly interesting, not only proving sasqautch but Yeti as well. I remember watching that episode of Destination Truth it was very good. So maybe Josh Gates will get some answers as well for his efforts. I just wish the paper would finally be published. It will not stop all skeptics but for many who might be on the fence it will convince them.

Thanks
Tom

A source told Robert Lindsay the following -

"Believe me Robert, after looking at tons of coyotes in my life, that flesh doesn’t look anything like a coyote, not in a million years. Hell, the color isn’t even right. Apparently the bigger piece was light in some areas and dark in others. The pic I have is of the darker area. The hair is far to long for a yote and is kinky almost like human pubic hairs. It in no way resembles a coyote. So Meldrum just has sour grapes."

So why did Meldrum think it was a coyote?

 Meldrum took a small piece of the steak no larger than a fingernail with him back to his lab and examined it. He decided that it probably was not a Bigfoot due to the presence of guard hairs. This led Meldrum to believe that the steak was actually a piece of coyote. A source told us that what killed Meldrum’s enthusiasm was his Bigfoot as Ape theory. Apes do not have guard hairs, and Bigfoot is an ape, so the Bigfoot steak could not be from a Bigfoot. Dogs have guard hairs, so it is probably from a dog.

We have never before examined Bigfoot hair that is attached to skin before. It is possible that the under hairs or guard hairs can only be seen when the hair is attached to skin. The hairs we find otherwise not attached to flesh may not show guard hairs.

The event of going back and looking for the bodies was video taped by Justin Smeja according to Lindsay. Also present was Jeff Meldrum and I assume members from the Olympic Project team.

A photo or photos of the Bigfoot steak definitely exist. I have spoken to someone who has seen photos of the steak. Apparently a number of people have seen these photos and they are definitely floating around. We are trying very hard to obtain a photo, but they are very hard to get ahold of. People who have photos won’t give them up.

[source Robert Lindsay Blog ]

Dr. Melba Ketchum's DNA and possibly the Erickson videos.

This is from the United States Copyrights office.

Release date -
Projected Date of Publication: 2012-02-15 (Approximate)

Here is what it really say about it.

Application Title: Sasquatch: The Tribe Revealed
Title: Sasquatch: The Tribe Revealed
Copyright Claimant: Melba Stinnett Ketchum. Address: P O Box 455, Timpson, TX, 75975, United States.Creation of Work Began: 2008-04-07 (Approximate)
Date of Anticipated Completion: 2011-06-22 (Approximate)
Projected Date of Publication: 2012-02-15 (Approximate)
Authorship on Application: Melba Stinnett Ketchum.
Description of Work: A film and/or documentary, narration or audio book, supporting photos and literary paper/document/book that will follow the The Sasquatch Project, the scientist and the scientific testing and proof for the existence of Sasquatch/ Bigfoot. Information will include discussion of results including A New Tribe of Living Humans, the complete Sasquatch mitochondrial genome sequence and nuclear DNA variations and text will show complete mitochondrial (mt) genome sequences were identified from DNA, analysis of the assembled sequence unequivocally establishes that the Sasquatch mtDNA falls inside the range of modern human mtDNAs and discussions of the origins thereof. The proof that the Sasquatch is not only the closest living human relative but is actually a contemporary living human. Also discussed is nuclear DNA testing performed on the same samples and the variations found in various genes including MC1R gene RUNX2 and FOXP2 as well as other targets genes involved in the perception of sound, transmission of nerve signals, the production of sperm and the lactase gene. Also discussed is how testing has ruled out ape cross and any ancient contributor and that Sasquatch is indeed a modern human with some genetic mutations accounting for their physical appearance. Also included are discussion of the history of samples and circumstances surrounding the acquisition, their testing, the circumstances surrounding the entire Sasquatch DNA Project. Documentary stars Melba Ketchum, et al

TCC- So they are saying it is a "A New Tribe of Living Humans" -- It might be a new ball game !
I have personally look at this record and it is really there...so it must be true and it appears that Robert Lindsay is correct yet again !
Also if this is proven and accepted then the idea of killing one would be like killing another human and would be a crime I am assuming. So Justin Smeja could be in some trouble. Now we wait...again!
In other words Melba Ketchum has copyrighted the upcoming movie about the whole DNA process along with pictures and videos all in conjunction with a DNA report being released I would assume.

[UPDATE] -
This is the Possible website that will handle the news release of the movie and DNA paper
 http://www.bigfootreferenceguide.com/sgp/ - Nothing really to see there yet...but might be worth keeping an eye on.

Also I don't know  how long this info will be available as some are already calling for it to be taken down on other sites.

[update 2]
Dr Ketchum releases a statement.


Dr melba Ketchum has release a statement about the recent breaking news about the video project.
Here is what she said:
"To address the recent hype and misstatements concerning my paper, please be advised that the information pulled off the US Copyright website for a 2010 preregistration for a proposed media project is not an accurate summary of our scientific testing and data and does not reflect the current conclusions of our scientific paper. The contemplated media project was never produced and no update was e...ver made to the short description on the preregistration statement. Instead of working on proposed media projects, we have been focusing our time and energy on our ongoing scientific testing and data which will be accurately summarized in the final version of our scientific paper. The final paper presenting our data, analysis and updated conclusions will be published in a peer reviewed scientific journal but we do not have a publication date at this time."

TCC - So here findings may be different that those in the copyright record. And she really didn't deny the video release.

 

 

Samples submitted: Over 100
Samples presumptive for Bigfoot: 28
# of Bigfoot creatures represented: At least 20

Which samples made it in?
5 hair samples from Golden Ears Provincial Park in British Colombia, representing 5 separate creatures, gathered by Erickson Project.
1 toenail from Larry Jenkins in Arizona.
1 blood sample from JC Johnson in the 4 Corners area of New Mexico (skunk in a drainpipe sample).
1 blood sample from Crittenden, Kentucky, gathered by Erickson Project. Sample was obtained by gluing glass shards on a feeding plate.
1 hair sample from David Paulides NABS known as the Ulibarri sample from Hoopa Valley, California.
1 hair sample from Larry Surface in southern Ohio. Surface shot the controversial nighttime Bigfoot video that was pulled from the web recently.
1 slice of Bigfoot flesh from Sierra Buttes, California from the adult Bigfoot shot dead by Justin Smeja.
That’s only 11 of the 28 samples. I don’t have any information on the other 17.
[via Robert Lindsay Blog ]